Preliminary remark by Sami Aldeeb, Doctor of laws Swiss, Christian
of Palestinian origin e-mail: aldeeb@bluewin.ch
homepage: http://go.to/samipage
Don't forget Emmaus: http://www.lpj.org/Nonviolence/Sami/Album.html
The Middle East is living a nightmare,
notably because of a man of Russian origin who became Prime Minister
of Israel: Ariel Sharon. What is the profound thought of this man?
This is what Amos Oz, an Israeli writer, help us to discover through
an interview published by the Israeli daily Davar in December 17,
1982.
Amos Oz reproduced this interview,
with others, in his book in Hebrew, 1982: Amos Oz: Poh va-sham be-Erets-Yisra'el
bi-setav, 1982, republished by Am Oved, Tel-Aviv, 1986. The interview
is on pages 70-82. Amos Oz does not mention the name of Sharon, but
uses the abbreviation Z. The facts given by Amos Oz indicate that
the person interviewed is Ariel Sharon.
This book has been published in
French: Amos Oz: Les voix d'Israël, translated by Guy Seniak,
Calmann-Lévy, Paris, 1983. The interview is on pages 79-91.
Here again, Amos Oz does not mention the name of Sharon, but uses
the abbreviation T. A French version is also produced in: Letter no
2 of FAITS ET DOCUMENTS, 3 September 2001: http://www.argent.fr/fetd2.htm.
This interview was transmitted by Genie Trone - etrone@webtv.net -,
member of a discussion group on Internet called Together, founded
by the Israeli journalist Israel Shamir. In the introduction, it is
said that the person interviewed is certainly Ariel Sharon.
The same book has been published
in English: Amos Oz: In the Land of Israel, translated by Maurie Goldberg-Bartura,
1st Vintage Books Edition, New York, 1984. Here again, Amos Oz does
not mention the name of Sharon, but uses the abbreviation C.
I produce here the interview as
published in: http://www.counterpunch.org/pipermail/counterpunch-list/2001-September/013054.html
It is indicated that the man referred to as C. is Sharon. The interview
can be also found in: http://www.islamicparty.com/commonsense/33sharon.htm
and in: http://www.dubaiphotomedia.com/english/voice/interviews/sharonoz.PDF
I invite the readers to distribute
this text worldwide. It may help opening the eyes of many people and
save innocent lives.
The interview of Ariel Sharon by
Amos Oz
[Sharon]: "You can call me anything you like. Call me a monster
or a murderer. Just note that I don't hate Arabs. On the contrary.
Personally, I am much more at ease with them, and especially with
the Bedouin, than with Jews. Those Arabs we haven't yet spoilt are
proud people, they are irrational, cruel and generous. It's the Yids
that are all twisted. In order to straighten them out you have to
first bend them sharply the other way. That, in brief, is my whole
ideology".
"Call Israel by any name
you like, call it a Judeo-Nazi state as does Leibowitz. Why not? Better
a live Judeo-Nazi than a dead saint.
I don't care whether I am like
Ghadafi. I am not after the admiration of the gentiles. I don't need
their love. I don't need to be loved by Jews like you either. I have
to live, and I intend to ensure that my children will live as well.
With or without the blessing of the Pope and the other religious leaders
from the New York Times.
I will destroy anyone who will
raise a hand against my children, I will destroy him and his children,
with or without our famous
purity of arms. I don't care if he is Christian, Muslim, Jewish or
pagan. History teaches us that he who won't kill will be killed by
others. That is an iron law".
"Even if you'll prove to
me by mathematical means that the present war in Lebanon is a dirty
immoral war, I don't care. Moreover, even if you will prove to me
that we have not achieved and will not achieve any of our aims in
Lebanon, that we will neither create a friendly regime in Lebanon
nor destroy the Syrians or even the PLO, even then I don't care. It
was still worth it.
Even if Galilee is shelled again
by Katyushas in a year's time, I don't really care. We shall start
another war, kill and destroy more and more, until they will have
had enough. And do you know why it is all worth it? Because it seems
that this war has made us more unpopular among the so-called civilised
world".
"We'll hear no more of that
nonsense about the unique Jewish morality, the moral lessons of the
holocaust or about the Jews who were supposed to have emerged from
the gas chambers pure and virtuous. No more of that.
The destruction of Eyn Hilwe (and
it's a pity we did not wipe out that hornet's nest completely!), the
healthy bombardment of Beirut and that tiny massacre (can you call
500 Arabs a massacre?) in their camps which we should have committed
with our own delicate hands rather than let the Phalangists do it,
all these good deeds finally killed the bullshit talk about a unique
people and of being a light upon the nations. No more uniqueness and
no more sweetness and light. Good riddance."
"I personally don't want
to be any better than Khomeini or Brezhnev or Ghadafi or Assad or
Mrs. Thatcher, or even Harry Truman who killed half a million Japanese
with two fine bombs. I only want to be smarter than they are, quicker
and more efficient, not better or more beautiful than they are.
Tell me, do the baddies of this
world have a bad time? If anyone tries to touch them, the evil men
cut his hands and legs off. They hunt and catch whatever they feel
like eating. They don't suffer from indigestion and are not punished
by Heaven. I want Israel to join that club. Maybe the world will then
at last begin to fear me instead of feeling sorry for me. Maybe they
will start to tremble, to fear my madness instead of admiring my nobility.
Thank God for that.
Let them tremble, let them call
us a mad state. Let them understand that we are a wild country, dangerous
to our surroundings, not normal, that we might go crazy if one of
our children is murdered - just one! That we might go wild and burn
all the oil fields in the
Middle East! If anything would happen to your child, God forbid, you
would talk like I do.
Let them be aware in Washington,
Moscow, Damascus and China that if one of our ambassadors is shot,
or even a consul or the most junior embassy official, we might start
World War Three just like that!"
......We are talking while sitting
on the balcony of the pretty country house belonging to C. which is
situated in a prosperous Moshav. To the west we see a burning sunset
and there is a scent of fruit trees in the air. We are being served
iced coffee in tall glasses.
C. is about fifty years old. He
is a man well known for his (military) actions. He is a strong, heavy
figure wearing shorts but no shirt. His body is tanned a metallic
bronze shade, the colour of a blond man living in the sun. He puts
his hairy legs on the table and his hands on the chair. There is a
scar on his neck. His eyes wander over his plantations. He spells
out his ideology in a voice made hoarse by too much smoking:
"Let me tell me [sic] what
is the most important thing, the sweetest fruit of the war in Lebanon:
It is that now they don't just hate Israel. Thanks to us, they now
also hate all those Feinschmecker Jews in Paris, London, New York,
Frankfurt and Montreal, in all their holes. At last they hate all
these nice Yids, who say they are different from us, that they are
not Israeli thugs, that they are different Jews, clean and decent.
Just like the assimilated Jew in Vienna and Berlin begged the anti-Semite
not to confuse him with the screaming, stinking Ostjude, who had smuggled
himself into that cultural environment out of the dirty ghettos of
Ukraine and Poland.
It won't help them, those clean
Yids, just as it did not help them in Vienna and Berlin. Let them
shout that they condemn Israel, that they are all right, that they
did not want and don't want to hurt a fly, that they always prefer
being slaughtered to fighting, that they have taken it upon themselves
to teach the gentiles how to be good Christians by always turning
the other cheek. It won't do them any good. Now they are getting it
there because of us, and I am telling you, it is a pleasure to watch."
"They are the same Yids who
persuaded the gentiles to capitulate to the bastards in Vietnam, to
give it in to Khomeini, to Brezhnev, to feel sorry for Sheikh Yamani
because of his tough childhood, to make love not war. Or rather, to
do neither, and instead write a thesis on love and war. We are through
with all that.
The Yid has been rejected, not
only did he crucify Jesus, but he also crucified Arafat in Sabra and
Shatila. They are being identified with us and that's a good thing!
Their cemeteries are being desecrated, their synagogues are set on
fire, all their old nicknames are being revived, they are being expelled
from the best clubs, people shoot into their ethnic restaurants murdering
small children, forcing them to remove any sign showing them to be
Jews, forcing them to move and change their profession."Soon
their palaces will be smeared with the slogan: Yids, go to Palestine!
And you know what? They will go to Palestine because they will have
no other choice! All this is a bonus we received from the Lebanese
war. Tell me, wasn't it worth it?
Soon we will hit on good times.
The Jews will start arriving, the Israelis will stop emigrating and
those who already emigrated will return. Those who had chosen assimilation
will finally understand that it won't help them to try and be the
conscience of the world. The 'conscience of the world' will have to
understand through its arse what it could not get into its head.
The gentiles have always felt
sick of the Yids and their conscience, and now the Yids will have
only one option: to come home, all of them, fast, to install thick
steel doors, to build a strong fence,to have submachine guns positioned
at every corner of their fence here
and to fight like devils against anyone who dares to make a sound
in this region.
And if anyone even raises his
hand against us we'll take away half his land and burn the other half,
including the oil. We might use nuclear arms. We'll go on until he
no longer feels like it..."
"...You probably want to
know whether I am not afraid of the masses of Yids coming here to
escape anti-Semitism smearing us with their olive oil until we go
all soft like them. Listen, history is funny in that way, there is
a dialectic here, irony. Who was it who expanded the state of Israel
almost up the boundaries of the kingdom of King David? Who expanded
the state until it covered the area from Mount Hermon to Raz Muhammad?
Levi Eshkol. Of all people, it was that follower of Gordon, that softie,
that old woman.
Who, on the other hand, is about
to push us back into the walls of the ghetto? Who gave up all of Sinai
in order to retain a civilised image? Beitar's governor in Poland,
that proud man Menahem Begin. So you can never tell. I only know one
thing for sure: as long as you are fighting for your life all is permitted,
even to drive out all the Arabs from the West Bank, everything."
"Leibowitz is right, we are
Judeo-Nazis, and why not? Listen, a people that gave itself up to
be slaughtered, a people that let soap to be made of its children
and lamp shades from the skin of its women is a worse criminal than
its murderers. Worse than the Nazis ...
If your nice civilised parents had come here in time instead of writing
books about the love for humanity and singing 'Hear O Israel' on the
way to the gas chambers, now don't be shocked, if they instead had
killed six million Arabs here or even one million, what would have
happened? Sure, two or three nasty pages would have been written in
the history books, we would have been called all sorts of names, but
we could be here today as a people of 25 million!"
"Even today I am willing
to volunteer to do the dirty work for Israel, to kill as many Arabs
as necessary, to deport them, to expel and burn them, to have everyone
hate us, to pull the rug from underneath the feet of the Diaspora
Jews, so that they will be forced to run to us crying. Even if it
means blowing up one or two synagogues here and there, I don't care.
And I don't mind if after the job is done you put me in front of a
Nuremberg Trial and then jail me for life. Hang me if you want, as
a war criminal. Then you can spruce up your Jewish conscience and
enter the respectable club of civilised nations, nations that are
large and healthy.
What you lot don't understand
is that the dirty work of Zionism is not finished yet, far from it.
True, it could have been finished in 1948, but you interfered, you
stopped it. And all this because of the Jewishness in your souls,
because of your Diaspora mentality. For the Jews don't grasp things
quickly.
If you open your eyes and look
around the world you will see that darkness is falling again. And
we know what happens to a Jew who stays out in the dark. So I am glad
that this small war in Lebanon frightened the Yids. Let them be afraid,
let them suffer. They should hurry home before it gets really dark.
So I am an anti-Semite? Fine. So don't quote me, quote Lilienblum
instead [an early Russian Zionist - ed.]. There is no need to quote
an anti-Semite. Quote Lilienblum, and he is definitely not an anti-Semite,
there is even a street in Tel Aviv named after him". (C. quotes
from a small notebook that was lying on his table when I arrived:)
'Is all that is happening not
a clear sign that our forefathers and ourselves ... wanted and still
want to be disgraced? That we enjoy living like gypsies.' That's Lilienblum.
Not me. Believe me. I went through the Zionist literature, I can prove
what I say".
"And you can write that I
am disgrace to humanity, I don't mind, on the contrary. Let's make
a deal: I will do all I can to expel the Arabs from here, I will do
all I can to increase anti-Semitism, and you will write poems and
essays about the misery of the Arabs and be prepared to absorb the
Yids I will force to flee to this country and teach them to be a light
unto the gentiles. How about it?"
It was there that I stopped C.'s
monologue for a moment and expressed the thought passing through my
mind, perhaps more for myself than for my host. Was it possible that
Hitler had not only hurt the Jews but also poisoned their minds? Had
that poison sunk in and was still active? But not even that idea could
cause C. to protest or raise his voice. After all, he said to have
never shouted under stress, even during the famous operations his
name is associated with.
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